Galaxy Zoo Talk

About the star in question...

  • Gust644 by Gust644

    i know what a star don´t hot enough to produce emission lines, but because in the spectro for that follow a pattern after the right swings?
    enter image description here
    http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr9/en/tools/chart/navi.asp?ra=185.806685026565&dec=0.4294607333333333&opt=

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  • Budgieye by Budgieye moderator

    The big peak to the right is probably due to water is the Earth's atmosphere. Look at this spectrum. The green line shows interference in the Earth's atmosphere, especially water on the right side. The green line affects the black line and makes peaks appear.

    enter image description here

    http://cas.sdss.org/dr7/en/tools/explore/obj.asp?sid=723060327599570944

    Yes, there are no strong emission lines in this spectrum. It is a hot AO blue star, about 30,000 degrees K, but that is still not hot enought for big emission lines. This is a weak spectrum from a dim star, with values barely above zero. The peaks are random noise. There are some absorption lines, where some gas has absorbed some light.

    You are also correct, there is more light in 4000 and 5000, so it is definitely a blue star.

    http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr14/SkyServerWS/ImgCutout/getjpeg?TaskName=Skyserver.Explore.Image&ra=185.806689736102&dec=0.429103981717833&scale=0.2&width=200&height=200&opt=G

    http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr14/en/tools/explore/Summary.aspx?id=1237648705114997100


    Only very hot objects about a million degrees, produce emission peaks. eg

    • supernovae,

      active black holes,

      galaxy collision.

    More info here

    Spectra guide for SDSS images in Galaxy Zoo Talk https://talk.galaxyzoo.org/#/boards/BGZ0000001/discussions/DGZ0000ulp?page=3&comment_id=53fef2ee3d5a77490c0001b6


    It confused me, I thought you were talking about the galaxy at top left. Please start unrelated topics directly from the discussion page..

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  • Ghost_Sheep_SWR by Ghost_Sheep_SWR in response to Budgieye's comment.

    A bit of nitpicking to avoid confusion on my side; if I'm correct the green line ('empty sky measurement') is actually substracted from the original measurement to produce the black line in order to nullify sky noise. If it weren't the black line peaks would be much higher.

    So the residual peaks between 8000Å-9000Å can either mean - imperfect substraction (common) or part of the peaks are real (unlikely).

    I hope I got this right, right? 😄

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  • Budgieye by Budgieye moderator

    Duh,

    "the lower green curve represents the error in the number of counts"

    http://classic.sdss.org/gallery/gal_spectra.html


    Re: Tutorial bits on galaxy spectra http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=1923.msg35244#msg35244 by NGC3314 (Dr Keel)

    In these plots, the lower green line represents the software's
    estimate of the point-by-point error level. This tells you how
    accurate the measurements of the object itself (the black line) are
    likely to be. The error varies a lot across the spectrum for several
    reasons. The detector and spectrograph have nonuniform senstivity with
    wavelength, so the error from random counting statistics goes up where
    it is less efficient. Also, the object spectrum is the difference of
    what's seen through an optical fiber pointed right at the target and
    an average of several optical fibers pointed at "blank sky", to
    subtract the airglow (sort of a faint permanent aurora in the upper
    atmosphere, which varies with time and location). Here again, the
    error goes up where the night sky is brighter, and especially for
    fainter objects. Throughout, it's important that the radiation is
    detected as individual photons whose arrival is a stochastic process,
    so the errors are often dominated by this process. Executive summary -
    pay no attention to features in the object spectrum whose amplitude is
    not a good deal larger than the error spectrum at that wavelength,
    especially if the error spectrum shows a spike at the wavelength of
    interest.


    😃

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  • Ghost_Sheep_SWR by Ghost_Sheep_SWR

    Ah, it rang a bell but couldn't find the thread again, now, here they are;

    https://talk.galaxyzoo.org/?_ga=1.244656832.476670387.1443719759#/boards/BGZ0000004/discussions/DGZ0002ifp

    http://www.galaxyzooforum.org/index.php?topic=1923.msg156352#msg156352


    So it seems now there are actually two explanations for the green line. Either substraction of sky noise from primary measurement or indication of error level of the primary measurement.

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